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I think you are mistaken as to the purpose behind the product. its function is to alleviate the suffering that people are going through after being poisned.

As Tony p himself says, do not use the electrical devices he produces if you took the shot. there is no safety profile.

So for those people where can they go? Back to the same pushers who poisoned them?

If you want to go further with this please do put up and tell us all what you think will help these people in a clear and succinct manner.

Thanks.

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true not to use but all you re adding to this is fungus and these are a 2 edged sword--- this isnt even going to alleviate----like I said investigate to deal with what you dont a you will add not alleviated

understand the genomic programming before engaging in products---you still have to disengage the operating system but instead of a digital ---it will be a genomic one

and i didnt say use that tech ----but none the less it has to be removed or erased before anything will do anything constructive

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Aug 5, 2023·edited Aug 5, 2023Author

I have just been informed that I am talking to one of the real heroes in this fight.

Tony P and Clifford Carnicom are the two people that while going down different paths have been been shouting truths about what we are dealing with today from the rooftops for many years. We owe them both a huge debt of gratitude that i hope one day will be more widely recognised.

With the greatest Respect Tony, A big Hello, you Wild Man. And thank you for coming to my humble site.

You can get directly in touch with John Lukach to discuss this as i am sure he would be receptive to it, unlike others.

Alternatively, as i don't believe in censorship of the truth I have welcomed John to join you here for a gentleman's debate regarding the product, its application and the results they have had as I don't have the same knowledge that he has. Honest and respectful debate is something sadly lacking today, and is useful for we laymen to establish our own truths.

I am always open to debate and constructive criticism.

If you look through some of my previous posts you will see I tend to listen to the widest possible sources of credible information ( including yourself) but will try things out myself to verify. I don't always agree with 100% of anyone's opinion but do take on board what passes my logic test.

One of your posts influenced me greatly and i think it was in discussion for an eastern European audience.

You mentioned that the body pushes this crap down into the legs.

Would it be possible for you to elaborate on that here.

Thanks, matt.

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from the sack or flower to the top of the head is your core---chakra points --meridians etc--the immune system will either destroy - bind- or remove---what it can t do will push away to where theres nothing ---your legs arms ass ---and where people feel the most pain is usually in the outer extremities

debates are useless---because what we are dealing with is synthetic biology and none of these so called experts are even close to the solution and these things will not work either--what they are seeing is the adaption when people use any product will see 1 -2 steps of something positive and then its adaptive---so when I se all of this ---its a misdirect --false hope--because once these things stop this will devastate and cause hopelessness

will not bother-- get caught up is what I tell everyone quit the BS sales none of this is going to mount to anything til the disengagement is dealt with--if this isnt even discussed then its all an exercise in futility --as I said get caught up REPMRNA ---and will toss one more thing the spike protein maybe the bodies biological enzymes ( peptides that break down proteins) that have been reprogrammed by the genomic program and the nano

will talk about it on saturdays show

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What do you think of Sabrina/psinergy https://odysee.com/@psinergy:f?view=home I only discovered her channel recently She seems to know what she's talking about. Any views?

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Hi John - She shows her credentials in one of her videos - the one on her home page I think. For me she's fair dinkum, not that I understand even half of what she's saying but I get the big picture and it makes sense. I do hope she gets back to you. I was wondering if Shimon Yanowitz or Matt Taylor know about her. They would be in a better position to evaluate her presentations, given their backgrounds. She might even be able to clear up some of the questions they have. Btw, I see you've dropped out of Kovess show. I was thinking you should host a show of your own, something more focused, solutions-oriented with no more than say 12 participants, better presentation. Solutions need to be found fast. Kovess is all over the place.

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And please let us know where to catch your saturday show. Thanks.

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Aug 5, 2023·edited Aug 5, 2023Liked by matt. j.a.o.b

show is saturdays 3 pm eastern and mon and weds 6 pm eastern---there will be links as well to get everyone upgraded to where this is going ---with the advancements of the assimilation of digital genomic programming --anyone worth his weight will engage in research in shutting down the genomic programming --remember moderna stated it had 10^50th power of programming this is an AI developed construct---you can do research and see where AI has created out of the 21 peptides over 40million bioweapons---engage people to see alleviation with PAA = peraceticacid ---mixture of 2 oz of pure white vinegar not ACV which is loaded with nano --2 0z of 3% dollar store peroxide and 4 ounces of water( distilled or RO) mix well use 1/5 tsp in water throughout the day this will break down the carbon bonds to remove dead debris and embedded carbon nanotubes in you---it will even break down the graphene

https://www.podbean.com/lsw/Ab0LTApCl8?lsid=waMjMFqgu83

T

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Aug 5, 2023·edited Aug 5, 2023Author

Thanks for your honest opinion and reply.

At present my focus has been on finding cheap and accessible methods to mitigate this crap for people that can no longer afford the high costs of chelation or meds that are probably poisoned, and the like, which i also see as temporary easing of symptoms.

I agree fully that this is adaptive tech and have stopped all the meds except high dose C. Its from your work that made me wait until i can do a final assault on this using current, and rife tech..

Open debate is something that has been squashed under this new regime and i disagree with its value, but so be it.

many of us are looking for it today to help us make informed choices.

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useless as 3 tits on a bull none of this is going to stop anything and it s way over priced fungus with soms sulphurated vitamins

if you want to know what you re dealing with ---then look up replicon DNA or REPMRNA----

your still stuck on concepts that were never true

T

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Interesting opinion and i have no problem with you sharing it here. It would be a sad world if we were all the same.

as i tell everyone, do your own research and form your own opinions.

For me, it was first establishing who the people behind any product is and what their motivations, morals and ethics are. John and Em easily ticked that box.

Obviously in these special times even finding the above is a hard ask.

Secondly , have they tried the product on people and have they been honest about what has been achieved? As i said i do believe john and his claims about Ems product.

Lastly, as an exercise, i had the ingredients priced up independently and found Ems markup to be fair considering all the costs associated with producing it and getting it to customers. it would be less than most products.

If you had done the same research as i, you may have come to a different conclusion, but probably not. Are you still a believer in the old paradigm?

what medications do you think will help all these people?

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if you dont disengage the operating systems ---none of this will matter ---it will adapt and utilze ==like I said

look up REPMRNA ----you either will see it or you wont

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Aug 2, 2023Liked by matt. j.a.o.b

This is an amazingly cool Article and Stack. Thanks Matt.

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Aug 2, 2023Liked by matt. j.a.o.b

Thanks for sharing!

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Agreed, John is the real deal. Ordered the book and definitely hope to get the capsules from Emmanuel. Amazing pics re:PCR. I suppose my one and only sinus swab contributed to the hydrogel found in my analysis smh

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Aug 17, 2023·edited Aug 17, 2023Author

*Start at 10 minutes in onthe first one, where the sound quality makes this discussion audible.

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