Very interesting. What kind of microscope gives you 1600X? My 1970's vintage binocular Nikon had a maximum magnification of 400X under oil immersion if I remember correctly.
Did you put a specimen of coffee filter under the microscope first to see if any of the "junk" is present on it prior to filtering the urine? It seems like that would be an important step.
Yes I always check first. the coffee filters are pristine white for a starter and have 0 blue or red fibres.
I also use Isopropyl alcohol to clean my slides , checked first.
I use one brand of paper towel that i have checked and it has very standard fibres that are easily recognised and discounted.
The scope is sold as trinocular biological x40 <2500. But when you add magnification with software say up to 10 times it gives you a huge power, not that uou will see anything worthwhile tho. Its more about definition and clarity.
Even I wonder when i see x10 or x 40 and know the pros only say objective size. For the layman they think what they are looking at is only magnified X10 etc, when the actual magnification may be 5 times greater.
So, as most of my audience are not microscopists i will always use Actual magnification for accuracy.
Thank you for the specs you use. Haven’t used a lil microscope since I was young teen. Went to 600x just light refraction. Tempted to obtain something to observe. Not my normal venue but I do set tiny diamonds in gold, just use micro spectacles for that though. You’ve got me wanting to do my own looking. Did put up many of those peaches today. 😎.
Thanks for your comment, I have now edited in a control pic of new coffee filter paper that I use and will include those where applicable. Also other than the vitaminC shots its the first pic with my new (2nd hand) $50 camera.
The husband two days ago said, 'Hey ya know how you're obsessed by X the symbol, there's a news article about 'Disease' X.
I googled it and read a Brit. article. Turns out they're making a pre-vax for some generic disease due out sooner or later, X the unknown quantity. For Gen. X?
Anyway I shrugged and forgot about it until I went for a walk the next day. I turned and came out of the trees and saw... a massive X sprayed in the sky, chems as far as the eye could see and I remembered the ideas of these little red and blue threads, Morgellons I think and wondered for the millionth time what the hell is in that aerosol... and turned around and walked home.
I have been looking back through old samples and I now see Dr Nixon was correct regarding the contaminated cover slips creating rouleaux . I may go further yet and say they also accentuate the cell membrane breaking down / linking effect as well. Still assessing that.
I do both now on one slide part slip / part not.
Also if using the small slips in particular, turn them upside down as you remove them. The contamination is on one side i hear.
No worry, I'm not fully up on the scoping yet, just a humble questioner. But hey, I did have a vial a few months ago, nurse friend pulled it out of the waste at her hospital. BUT.....after hearing it was volatile and could burn you (that was maybe a story to dissuade would be scopers) I returned it. I think I can put schmutz on a slide, put on a cover slip and focus but I don't really know how to effectively do any of the material manipulations you talk about. This is my scope, goes up to 2000x
Also those scopes are fine and i have seen many posts on mira al microscopio using them to show the filaments etc. Look up dark field patches. $ 30 , get dark field effect. that simple just a bit more fiddly..
The same exact color, shape , action etc of these fibres in my blood, sputum semen and skin are coming off me as dander, sweat , urine etc. These are the same fibres assembling as per Clifford Carnicoms research.
I would consider that as shedding in the most classical sense. Just my opinion, for sure. and would like a better definition if anyone has one to contribute.
Omg! So….. it’s everywhere and hooking up with ? I’m wondering about a time frame for all this stuff showing up? When, how long ago, were blood and body secretions free of these odd things?
Great pics. I received my skin scope and waiting on microscope. I remember you saying they accumulate in the legs and at the spots of injury. So my question is how long do I leave on the bandaids and can I do them dry or do I need a bait? Thanks
I would use the clapping hands emoji here if i had it. Congratulations on joining in the fun.
In all seriousness it critical to get on to these buggers asap as you only have to look back at the history of "morgellons" to see you don't want it to progress.
I hate to think what the real numbers are of people who were institutionalized or committed suicide.
Don't show a practicing doctor your samples (especially in a matchbox) as you may be diagnosed with delusions of parasites. That never leaves your record and the history is sad.
Please let me know what you find. I genuinely want to hear from someone that looks but doesn't find them.
You might be the first person in the brave new world to describe how treatment for nano bugs is to proceed. Count the total load within a square millimeter to decide the method and dosage for removal. Like treating army worms in an oat patch.
sorry I have a habit of asking Q's before reading others Q's..just saw another bright spark has done so. Oh well, wishful thinking. I tend to suspect everything first., then check. Probably y I am still here.
@Koppykat, not Matt here but I will give you my opinion. Throughout history urine therapy has been a trusted healer, which progressively works to lift the body into a better state of healing, no matter the problem. I would be very surprised if Urotherapy were to be a method of reinfection.
It is also my opinion that urine could be used in a footbath for those who are turned off by drinking. That might reduce the hesitance for some..
I will try the footbath, i used to have a habit of peeing on my feet in the shower after hearing it prevented fungus. Never got toe fungus so maybe there was something in it.
Also even though i did my legs with peroxide, i didnt do my feet so i am not worried about a few babies joining the grownups down there. It another test i can do. Thanks Linda.
Yes, ultimately urine is toxic so restricting fungus is logical. It is also why we excrete it as when it builds up in the body is causes serious problems.
Hi Linda that’s a really good suggestion. I am quite sold on the therapy, not yet able to pursue it. One of the best things to have learned about. Only deepens my respect for what an amazing invention we are. Thanks for your thoughts
Essential tool for every family today if they want to monitor and get ahead of this. Cheapest way to really see for yourself the level of contamination you have, plus wake up those you care about. It works. Digital hand held microscope. I will be doing a post on them. I have a higher quality one in the mail. That one was $25. No financial excuse for anyone not to know and prove for themselves .
In the words of Shrek, "better out than in".
Very interesting. What kind of microscope gives you 1600X? My 1970's vintage binocular Nikon had a maximum magnification of 400X under oil immersion if I remember correctly.
Did you put a specimen of coffee filter under the microscope first to see if any of the "junk" is present on it prior to filtering the urine? It seems like that would be an important step.
Good questions John.
Yes I always check first. the coffee filters are pristine white for a starter and have 0 blue or red fibres.
I also use Isopropyl alcohol to clean my slides , checked first.
I use one brand of paper towel that i have checked and it has very standard fibres that are easily recognised and discounted.
The scope is sold as trinocular biological x40 <2500. But when you add magnification with software say up to 10 times it gives you a huge power, not that uou will see anything worthwhile tho. Its more about definition and clarity.
Even I wonder when i see x10 or x 40 and know the pros only say objective size. For the layman they think what they are looking at is only magnified X10 etc, when the actual magnification may be 5 times greater.
So, as most of my audience are not microscopists i will always use Actual magnification for accuracy.
Thank you for the specs you use. Haven’t used a lil microscope since I was young teen. Went to 600x just light refraction. Tempted to obtain something to observe. Not my normal venue but I do set tiny diamonds in gold, just use micro spectacles for that though. You’ve got me wanting to do my own looking. Did put up many of those peaches today. 😎.
Still wondering what may be in their flesh too.
Thank you. So in terms of actual magnification, can you see most of what you document using 40X and 200X?
Thanks for your comment, I have now edited in a control pic of new coffee filter paper that I use and will include those where applicable. Also other than the vitaminC shots its the first pic with my new (2nd hand) $50 camera.
The husband two days ago said, 'Hey ya know how you're obsessed by X the symbol, there's a news article about 'Disease' X.
I googled it and read a Brit. article. Turns out they're making a pre-vax for some generic disease due out sooner or later, X the unknown quantity. For Gen. X?
Anyway I shrugged and forgot about it until I went for a walk the next day. I turned and came out of the trees and saw... a massive X sprayed in the sky, chems as far as the eye could see and I remembered the ideas of these little red and blue threads, Morgellons I think and wondered for the millionth time what the hell is in that aerosol... and turned around and walked home.
Very good Matt, I was thinking of blood only but Ive got a scope will try. Just put saliva on a slide, with or without cover slip?
"unused coffee" means unused coffee filter right? Sorry for the simple qs I'm not so bright.
Thanks, another edit there. Yes filter.
I have been looking back through old samples and I now see Dr Nixon was correct regarding the contaminated cover slips creating rouleaux . I may go further yet and say they also accentuate the cell membrane breaking down / linking effect as well. Still assessing that.
I do both now on one slide part slip / part not.
Also if using the small slips in particular, turn them upside down as you remove them. The contamination is on one side i hear.
Lol, Matt! Thank you for clarifying that the coffee filter was included in the view on your slide, I was *horrified* until I read that!
Nice comprehensive list you have, too.
Thank you for all the hard work you are putting into this effort, I appreciate you very much.
Dropped a little Tinnitus reference in there like nobody'd notice ;) It's the worst. gah.
So the blue and red things are what exactly you suspect? And we're sure it's not a contamination? (pls dont hate me for asking ha!)
No hate here, these are easy to recognise as they have the same exact colors and form. I always discount a few.
Would you say your info shows vax shedding? if so pls direct me.
You don't/can't really say what makes these things up right?
Thanks!
Also, I like and welcome open debate here so never be shy.
No worry, I'm not fully up on the scoping yet, just a humble questioner. But hey, I did have a vial a few months ago, nurse friend pulled it out of the waste at her hospital. BUT.....after hearing it was volatile and could burn you (that was maybe a story to dissuade would be scopers) I returned it. I think I can put schmutz on a slide, put on a cover slip and focus but I don't really know how to effectively do any of the material manipulations you talk about. This is my scope, goes up to 2000x
https://mans.io/item/bebang/ms-2000-jp
Also, can I quote your comment above, "Good question..." on one of my posts and link to this post here?
Also those scopes are fine and i have seen many posts on mira al microscopio using them to show the filaments etc. Look up dark field patches. $ 30 , get dark field effect. that simple just a bit more fiddly..
Hi Proton. Anything I put up here is copy left to you. Go for it.
Good question.
The same exact color, shape , action etc of these fibres in my blood, sputum semen and skin are coming off me as dander, sweat , urine etc. These are the same fibres assembling as per Clifford Carnicoms research.
I would consider that as shedding in the most classical sense. Just my opinion, for sure. and would like a better definition if anyone has one to contribute.
Omg! So….. it’s everywhere and hooking up with ? I’m wondering about a time frame for all this stuff showing up? When, how long ago, were blood and body secretions free of these odd things?
Pre 2000 odd it seems.
Great pics. I received my skin scope and waiting on microscope. I remember you saying they accumulate in the legs and at the spots of injury. So my question is how long do I leave on the bandaids and can I do them dry or do I need a bait? Thanks
I would use the clapping hands emoji here if i had it. Congratulations on joining in the fun.
In all seriousness it critical to get on to these buggers asap as you only have to look back at the history of "morgellons" to see you don't want it to progress.
I hate to think what the real numbers are of people who were institutionalized or committed suicide.
Don't show a practicing doctor your samples (especially in a matchbox) as you may be diagnosed with delusions of parasites. That never leaves your record and the history is sad.
Please let me know what you find. I genuinely want to hear from someone that looks but doesn't find them.
You might be the first person in the brave new world to describe how treatment for nano bugs is to proceed. Count the total load within a square millimeter to decide the method and dosage for removal. Like treating army worms in an oat patch.
Thanks Bobby, but hardly the first.
Hildegard Stanninger, Jan Smith, Tony P, Carnicom, just to name a few.
We today stand on the shoulders of giants.
And yes, those army worms are intense .
Hi Matt just a thought, those coffee filters ..is it possible they have the morgs already in them? have you tested them unused first to see if so?
sorry I have a habit of asking Q's before reading others Q's..just saw another bright spark has done so. Oh well, wishful thinking. I tend to suspect everything first., then check. Probably y I am still here.
also wondering about the folks who utilise urotherapy? are they re-introducing the problem?
Have I understood correctly that you are having success in reducing the population of the fibres via Hydrogen peroxide application?
Definitely from the legs, will need to look at blood n semen again to see if it has any effect there.
Also updated the post with a control pic. See for yourself.
Good for you matt
@Koppykat, not Matt here but I will give you my opinion. Throughout history urine therapy has been a trusted healer, which progressively works to lift the body into a better state of healing, no matter the problem. I would be very surprised if Urotherapy were to be a method of reinfection.
It is also my opinion that urine could be used in a footbath for those who are turned off by drinking. That might reduce the hesitance for some..
Like I said, MHO.
I will try the footbath, i used to have a habit of peeing on my feet in the shower after hearing it prevented fungus. Never got toe fungus so maybe there was something in it.
Also even though i did my legs with peroxide, i didnt do my feet so i am not worried about a few babies joining the grownups down there. It another test i can do. Thanks Linda.
PS, always feel free to chip in .
Yes, ultimately urine is toxic so restricting fungus is logical. It is also why we excrete it as when it builds up in the body is causes serious problems.
@Baldmichael, You def propose an interesting perspective for a Homeopath.
Thank you for chiming in :-).
Hi Linda that’s a really good suggestion. I am quite sold on the therapy, not yet able to pursue it. One of the best things to have learned about. Only deepens my respect for what an amazing invention we are. Thanks for your thoughts
Okay what is the skin scope? I saw your box and story Is it a specific tool different to general microscopes?
Essential tool for every family today if they want to monitor and get ahead of this. Cheapest way to really see for yourself the level of contamination you have, plus wake up those you care about. It works. Digital hand held microscope. I will be doing a post on them. I have a higher quality one in the mail. That one was $25. No financial excuse for anyone not to know and prove for themselves .
@Shianne, Thank you for your post. I miss Hulda so much as well. She would be invaluable with untangling all this crap we are currently dealing with..
I studied every word Dr. Hulda Clark ever wrote, she is what finally got me into DF.
God Bless her :-).
@Shianne, what is the name of the man who "took over Hulda's work" that you speak of? TYVM
Thank you, Shianne :-). I think it does.